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I confess that over the last year or so I have discovered (guided by Panchesco) that drag is cool. The professionals spend a lot of time and effort perfecting their makeup, hair, outfits, and mannerisms. I appreciate and reward hard work!

"Frankly I'm sick and tired of dealing with these headcases and their twisted perception of reality and their need to conform to a group that will never accept them."

It's funny... I often feel that way after an extended period of time hanging out with a bunch of ghetto queens, constantly bashing my religious faith or desire for silly things like lower taxes. It's interesting that my Christian friends, most of whom still vote Republican (despite my best efforts to the contrary), have been far more accepting of me than my gay friends.

Every social group deals with group think. It's just easier when there's little mixing—on both sides.

It's amazing how many gay republicans often fuss so much over the scary female pronoun usuage, when they're the more likely to bottom than straight women. I suspect at heart, that most are still virulently sexist, which is why there's such a sting to it.

One day I'll show you my one drag attempt, and you can cackle with me. I did not have my make up done as expertly as yours, not by a long shot; mascara scares my eyes shut.

We all get defensive for different reasons. I get all angry when people say things like, "So, why don't you eat meat? Is it for health or ethical reasons?" I feel pissy at first, but then I sigh and start the schoolin'.

If I ever do drag, it will have to be Captain Janeway. I'd do Seven of Nine, but there's no way I could handle the heels--or the cleavage. And sadly, most people would just look at me and go, "Who are you supposed to be?"

And there I'd have another reason to be pissy.

Frankly I feel sorry for gays who don't/can't appreciate the fun and transformative power of drag, and I will continue to drag-out and enjoy myself thoroughly despite these party poopers. It's a fun release to get out of your regular "character" once in a while.
1) Gay and republican should not mix. 2) if you are fiscally republican and socially democrat, please let's work on destodgifying the democrats financially instead of giving any more power to the repubs - unless you *really* want to see the rest of your rights eroded... gar
Thanks for expanding my gay vocabulary - angertwink.
P.S. I bet Charlene makes a mean fruity cocktail and bundt cake.

Good points Jimbo. I don't do drag in order to turn someone else on (or to even to turn me on) - I do it because I enjoy being able to take on a new persona (totally different from my own) and act as that person for several hours on a Sunday afternoon. You yourself said that I didn't look like a drag queesn when we first met (Since the "season" hasn't started up yet, I still have my goatee and chest fur.) I have no desire to be a woman (I too like my male parts), but it is enjoyable to be someone else for that afternoon. On Sunday nights, good-ole Rob comes back and my dogs recognize me once again. I can be a leatherman at IML or MAL with the best of them, I can be a bear on Friday nights at Titan, or I can be a drag on Sundays for the Academy. Either way, all three are some form of "drag". Neither one represents 100% of who I am.

Why must one group in the LGBT community have so much disdain for another? The Leather crowd (or bears) despises the drag community; the drags don't understand the leathermen, the S&M (stand and model) crowd at JR's doesn't understand or care for either. If you don't fit in to their 'mold' then you're wrong and they are right (ummm sounds like religion and politics here now). Remind me to show you at Titan or during MAL weekend all of the "leathermen" who started out (or still are) drag queens ... you will be amazed. We're no threat to them and they are no threat to us. You do what you want and I'll do what I want - as as long as my actions don't cause harm to you, then stay out of my way. But, should you get in my face about it ... expect the wrath of an angry white woman in stilletos (and not those comfortable shoes you had on Tuesday night either) ;-)

You were fantastic in drag! So funny.

I used to have issues with drag queens back in the day. I remember loving Priscilla, but also worrying that people would think we all want to dress as women. I dealt with my masculinity issues, and now I'm cool with it and accepting of people like Ms. Charlene Hilton. I would do it if I wouldn't make such an ugly woman.

Josh:

Your Christian friends aren't truly accepting of you if they still vote republican; at least your gay friends are honest to your face.

Drag rocks but it is just too much work for me. Charlene looked hot in those red pants and I only wish I lived closer so I could have had my picture taken with her.

Run Jimbo, Run!

Not to get off on a rant, but, Josh, your "desire for silly things like lower taxes" would be less insulting if the right wing didn't insist on a president whose idea of a balanced budget takes a page from his own experience trying to walk a straight line when pulled over driving drunk. And that's just on poorly executed social programs. His falsely justified war spending is a whole 'nother story. But whatevs.

Jimbo, I lurve Charlene. I love that you're a very hot man who can also put on a pair of tight capris and a ridiculous wig and have fun with life, because at the end of the day, that's what matters. That and your flawless make-up.

I personally do not understand the whole Drag thing beyond the Theatrical element (for examples Female impersonators like Rupaul or the Onagata of Kabuki) They get paid to do it. I can also understand the drag thing for Halloween. Halloween is all fun and games. You can be what ever you want on Halloween. I just dont understand why some folk do it all the time, if they are not in theater/entertainment or for halloween

Then again I'm just a weird goth boy raised by ally cats and demons

Hey, having met TonkaManOR, and played rugby with him even, I can truthfully say I don't think the guy has masculinity hang-ups. He's just a normal guy who "doesn't get it" which, in my opinion, is a legitimate reaction.

For a long time, the drag thing really freaked me out. I haven't ever done it, and although I won't say I'd never do it, it doesn't really appeal to me.

If you look at it as a fun, costume thing, that's understandable. But I don't really get what would make someone on an average Saturday in March want to get all glammed up in a glittery evening gown and hang out in a dark, seedy bar in Portland. If the idea is to feel like a glamorous lady, well, a glamorous lady wouldn't be caught dead in a dark, seedy bar -- so wouldn't the illusion fall apart.

Similarly, one of the first times I ever went out to a bar in Portland, there was a table of 60-ish men dressed in what can best be described as frumpy women's clothes. Conversely to what I said above, if you DO want to dress like a woman, wouldn't you at least want to shop at Ann Taylor, or look like you did?

Well, anyway, hopefully I'm at peace with this. I think my current attitude is more one of puzzlement than fear or rejection. I can totally respect your position. I was VERY impressed with the end result of your recent project, Jimbo. That took some time and work!

I don't do drag because, well, where in Hell do you find a heel in a men's 13 EEE at the last minute? Anybody? Help?

I do dress my friends in drag. Apparently, I have a pretty good eye when it comes to outfitting boys in Goodwill specials.

Oooh, woah, who said "lower taxes" = "i heart george bush?" I've voted libertarian since I was 20. Now that I've shown y'all can stop acting like fascists, Durban my straight Christian friends don't vote republican because they hate gays—just as surely you don't agree with every little thing Howard Dean or Harold Ford (who opposed the New Jersey decision, btw) or Barrack Obama say, they don't agree with that. There is more to a political party than its stance on any one issue, and condemning entire swaths of people for being nuanced in their political beliefs is hardly productive.

And I don't call my treatment by a lot of gays "being honest to me face." I call it "acting like a bunch of self-righteous, judgmental assholes." Tact matters, believe it or not. And if someone tries to disguise acting like a jerk for not thinking the same as "honesty", well, then, they don't deserve my time.

Gays with masculinity issues are boring. No offence to some of my good friends on the GKRFC, but a lot of the rugby guys I have met have hang ups galore. Just look at that pitiful article in the Village Voice from a few weeks back:

http://villagevoice.com/news/0639,korman,74561,6.html

I thought you looked FABULOUS, girl!

Darling you were fabulous, I only wish I could have been there to share a hairspray moment with you (take a look at what I did to my hair yesterday).

As for the repubs - praise be to you my sister! What a lovely summary of how I feel on that group of people. I am sick of trying to be so understanding and accomodating of people who put being themselves AFTER any list of issues, especially those related to money, guns etc. I am a green bleeding (or is it blue - who knows) liberal freak. Nowhere in the bylaws does it say that we have to take the high road with these self-loathing idiots... I have ended dates just b/c the dude was republican and I have strained that many more "friendships"

But can you really be friends with someone who can't be friends with themselves?

Exactly. Jimbo is my hair-raising hero. Nice rant :-)

I don't know that I could *do* drag, but I sure as hell enjoy it. Especially at funerals.

Changing the subject: Jimbo, though Carpenter is a woofy man indeed, I feel compelled to remind you that the adorable David Eckstein also plays for the St. Louis Cardinals - and that he won the World Series MVP.

Moving to Texas has given me increased mixed feelings about "girl talk". This town is really angertwink-centric; we only have a few gay bars, and whatever bar is newest/most popular always caters to the young, plucked, hairless, coiffed and indignantly queeny. The music reflects this: they always spin that "Put Your Hands Up" song halfway though the night and the twinks go apeshit. The problem for us non-angertwinks is double: not only are we not attracted to the angertwinks but they're also full of scorn for anyone outside their clan.

If I had been with some new guy at The Eagle in NYC and you had asked me, "Who's the new missus?" the question would seem perfectly normal. Here, however, there's such massive divide between angertwinks and everyone else, that using a term like "missus" might raise red flags (Oh no, he's with THEM). It's the same kind of uh-oh feeling I get when one of the gays casually drops a Republican talking point into polite conversation.

I think there's also a distinction to be made between guys who feel comfortable doing drag for Halloween or whatever and those who have a powerfully preoccupying love/hate thing going on with their inner woman.
I go out on Tuesdays to a club that has tons of drag queens (almost all Texas drag queens are "of color" for some reason) and a big drag show followed by a twink amateur strip contest. The drag queens tend to be very cool people, very self assured and well grounded. The androgynous angertwinks who close their eyes and lipsynch passionately along with the drag numbers tend to be rather grouchily gender dysphoric. Perhaps it's an age issue. They are probably also pretty sexually frustrated: aspiring to be a razor-tongued Joan Crawford while trapped in a skinny boy's body isn't the greatest way to get laid.

I don't know what DC is like, but the red states are pretty shitty places for the gays to sort out their gender issues.

Jimbo, it wasn't a personal attack. As for the comments........stupid blogger wasn't notifying me when I had comments. So I have changed that now. It was a simple question. I have no masculinity hangups, I'm for the right to arm Bears.

I will try to keep my posts more serious from now on!